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Question?!

Postby Sai_Skii » 20.07.2014, 05:24

Hey, we have been working on a happy sauer client for a while now, and i have just one question for anyone that can answer it for me. Does a rifle color trail count as cheating? It shows either blue rifle shot trails for the blue team, or red rifle trail shots for the red team. See the problem with this is you can see witch team the shot came from. Would this be a problem?

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Re: Question?!

Postby Pikachu » 20.07.2014, 21:37

46 views... no responses :'(

is it cheating or what people??

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Re: Question?!

Postby Fearer » 20.07.2014, 22:57

Short answer.
Yes ;)
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Re: Question?!

Postby Sai_Skii » 21.07.2014, 06:48

Ok, I will make sure that the next client version has the trail shots deleted.

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Re: Question?!

Postby lesak-000 » 13.08.2014, 13:37

Wait! Don't remove it! It is not cheating cause it is visual settings which is visible only for you! No one except you can see you're color-shots. So, don't delete this function, because it is not cheat. ;)

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Re: Question?!

Postby Fatality » 13.08.2014, 15:31

Wall hacks are also visual for only you

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Re: Question?!

Postby lesak-000 » 13.08.2014, 16:22

Color Shots (aka Trail Shots) are existed in Crash-Mod for sure. Also in SuperSauer Client, and also in Dead Menu. It is not cheating. Have Fun!

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Re: Question?!

Postby swatllama » 14.08.2014, 03:18

lesak-000, you are an idiot,
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Re: Question?!

Postby Fearer » 14.08.2014, 10:29

swatllama wrote:lesak-000, you are an idiot,
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Re: Question?!

Postby Joran » 14.08.2014, 18:36

I think it's not cheating since changing the enemy players' skins isn't considered as cheating either.

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Re: Question?!

Postby swatllama » 14.08.2014, 21:54

Joran, then you'd know that the person whose shots are going next to you from behind are from Chaos instead of from me missing you, so you wouldn't be obligated to turn around and shoot.

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Re: Question?!

Postby Fatality » 15.08.2014, 06:00

Team skins are already different from enemy skins by default, while all smoke trails are the same; I think it'd be cheating as it gives an unfair advantage to someone with vanilla sauer

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Re: Question?!

Postby Vanquish » 15.08.2014, 17:36

Fatality wrote:it gives an unfair advantage over someone with vanilla sauer
FTFY :D

Everything's already been said. I doubt you'll get banned for using this shit but if you want to stay honest just leave it at default.

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Re: Question?!

Postby lesak-000 » 15.09.2014, 13:49

So, All of you except "Joran" want to say that Comed (Official Anti-Cheat), Including cheat (Color-Shots)? ^__^

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Re: Question?!

Postby mefisto » 15.09.2014, 17:23

lesak-000 wrote:So, All of you except "Joran" want to say that Comed (Official Anti-Cheat), Including cheat (Color-Shots)? ^__^
Comed is not the official anti-cheat client. It is based on the open-source part of the SDOS anti-cheat client. It's a client intended for open community development - we welcome and encourage everyone to participate in the development through discussion and - even better - github pull requests.

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Re: Question?!

Postby lesak-000 » 15.09.2014, 21:23

You just give us a proof that comed is an anti-cheat. What is a SDoS client? Sauerbraten Day of Sobriety, based on SWLACC client (100 procent anti-cheat, for SWL Tournaments). Which means, that comed is also an anti-cheat. :hearts

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Re: Question?!

Postby Pisto » 15.09.2014, 22:26

what the

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Re: Question?!

Postby greenadiss » 16.09.2014, 04:44

It shows either blue rifle shot trails for the blue team, or red rifle trail shots for the red team.
Can you detect here more than 1 color? (it's ComEd)
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Can you see the difference when rifle trail color is the same for both teams and when you can detect who shoots behind you by the color of the rifle trail?

You just give us a proof that comed is an anti-cheat.
Do you know why anti-cheat clients have this name? Yes, because you cannot cheat with them!
But how do you usually cheat? You change what? Right, the source code!

Now tell me:
can you call the client which has an open source code as an anti-cheat client?

Next time, please, think twice and try to investigate things yourself. None hides it from you, just go and check.

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Re: Question?!

Postby lesak-000 » 16.09.2014, 12:24

Okay, greenadiss. I agree, open source client cannot be an anti cheat (sorry, didn't noticed that they published the source). Still, comed modify color of smoke, like many another mods. It's not a cheat or something, it just gives you better experience from the mod. Discussion ended. :hearts


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